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giunuz

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Sunday, October 11th 2009, 5:33pm

Really weird cheat? o_O

i found this screen:

where are the desktops with all the computers? Really weird, do you think so?
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Sunday, October 11th 2009, 5:43pm

Personally I've seen the similar screens, which occur the first moment after you maximize the game from desktop.
'weird' is not enough to get him banned.
If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
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giunuz

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Sunday, October 11th 2009, 5:45pm

thanks for your answer :D
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Valleyhunter

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Sunday, October 11th 2009, 9:59pm

Do you have any more SS of this guy? I mean stripping your graphics right down is one thing, but this...

As far as I can make out it is the spawn room on Vacant where the B bomb is. No desks, no dividing walls etc. That seems to me to be more than just "basic graphic setting". Eh?
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Monday, October 12th 2009, 9:57pm



the Cross of the viewfinder is missing because the SS has been made when she took aim


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Tuesday, October 13th 2009, 1:17pm




the Cross of the viewfinder is missing because the SS has been made when she took aim


I believe this to be wrong...unless the SS was taken just as the aim is in the process of changing to "normal" view or from "normal" view to aiming.
Otherwise the aim would be straight down the rifle and not to the side as this image shows.

I still belive this would be better served with more SS' to either back up a claim - cheat or clean.

Until that happens I will not comment this thread anymore. Pure speculation only. No proof either way.
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giunuz

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Tuesday, October 13th 2009, 11:06pm

well, another screen of the same player, taken during a tournament match


and another one, taken during the same match, but this is ANOTHER PLAYER (same clan, really strange, isn't it?)


finally, ANOTHER PLAYER of the same clan, during the same match.. "A objective" disappeared?? o_O


WTF??
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Valleyhunter

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Wednesday, October 14th 2009, 1:23am

lol I hope you have the originals stored somewhere safe and have not edited the originals.

If you do, I would just submit them and if this falls outside GV's remit, submit them to the league where you were playing the match.

Looks like a +3 to me :thumbsup: and possibly the entire team.

Make sure you stream to more than just one company to try to keep as up-to-date as you can. PBbans would be my recommendation to add if you already stream to GV. They also have a process similar to GV's for submitting PBSS' and you would do us all a huge favour by submitting them.

Should they be proven not to have cheated, but used graphic "tweaking" or whatever legal means, at least you will know for the future. Although, I have to say the 2nd one looked inconclusive, the first and 3rd look quite clear to me. Alas, I am not an expert and give you but my opinion on the matter ie. I may be totally wrong. :P

Whatever you do, make sure you submit more than one PBSS pr player to be sure. GWF and keep it up.
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giunuz

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Wednesday, October 14th 2009, 2:12pm

hi Valleyhunter, thanks for your reply. Yep, 2nd screen is incoclusive, in that position no desks were in the field of view. Sorry for my mistake :)
I submitted the screens to the league and admins had a look to them. By the way i submitted these screen to GV, stay tuned :)
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giunuz

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Saturday, October 17th 2009, 12:36pm

well, i received an answer from GV admins. they told me to check the following thread: http://game-violations.ggl.com/index.php…&threadID=29248

Unfortunately the only message i can display is: You are not allowed to enter this page. You do not have the required permissions to enter this page.
o_O

Can someone be so gracious to visit that link and tell me what it says? Thank you.
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Saturday, October 17th 2009, 4:10pm

I just realised that the link provided was in the League Admins area, which obviously you don't have access to.
But more importantly, it was a thread about CoD WaW which I didn't notice at the time. We'll have to re-consider the screenshot. If it should be banned after all then I will send you a PM requesting that you upload the screenshot again so please don't remove it yet.

Thank you for understanding
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Saturday, October 17th 2009, 5:41pm

hi, i'm a clan admin of tLk
in my opinion is simply a bug of pb, in first 2 screen, and the 3rd 1 is a normal screen,
i tryed to copy the position of every screen and overlay the pictures,



this screen is the normal view in that position, in case of a cheat that eliminate all desks i can't find the advantage because the player can't move avoiding the object


in the other screen i cannot overlay the images, because the view is from the aiming view but the normal black screen with the aim circle is missing too


sorry for my english, i hope you understand me

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "littlemagic" (Oct 17th 2009, 5:47pm)

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Saturday, October 17th 2009, 7:20pm

this picture you edited, you and not me and then you see the difference chaira graphics in the first graphic you see on the ground if you see spots, which does not happen in the second addition to the first and the second is more opaque and crystal clear Then there are the shapes on the ground to move
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Saturday, October 17th 2009, 8:11pm

my graphic is not the same of the other player because we have different config, if you want i can ask the config and do the screen again
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Sunday, October 18th 2009, 2:25am

I think I understand what Crysiselle is trying to say...

The "missing" desks etc. are marked out by shaded areas on the floor and so it is possible to run around them without to much trouble.
As for a potential advantage...well quite a huge one in fact if you can see someone standing behind a pole or lying behind a desk...a well used tactic in this room is to run and jump into the room, others choose to crawl. The point is that in the normally dark room you can see the enemy immediately.
He might just have missed you crouching behind that desk.

As for the Deagle shot...good point and well spotted. Might indeed well be the case.

@ giunuz

Change the SS width and height to:
pb_sv_SsWidth 800 //[Requested pixel width of remote screenshots]
pb_sv_SsHeight 408 //[Requested pixel height of remote screenshots]

You will lose some quality, but will get larger images and so a bit easier to see what is going on - in my humble opinion.
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Sunday, October 18th 2009, 2:59am

in the 2nd screenshot the only shadow area is for the missing of some texture of the floor tile, not shadow of the desks
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Sunday, October 18th 2009, 11:02am

see that not only his desk but the picture on the wall that has its shape
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Sunday, October 18th 2009, 4:42pm

yes, so you can avoid the picture on the wall ...
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